The Noise That Pulls Us Away

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However, notifications, expectations, and constant comparison, the question has become harder than ever to answer. And today we are going to explore exactly those hard questions and maybe find a way out of ourselves in the world full of noisiness and the world which is expecting so much from us.

Welcome To Healthy Mind Healthy Life

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Welcome to Healthy Mind, Healthy Life. I am Srimeda, and this is where we explore conversations that help us reconnect with ourselves and live with greater intention in life. And joining me today is Olga Ramore, and she is someone who believes that technology doesn't have to distract us from ourselves. When designed thoughtfully, it can actually become a tool for awareness, reflection, and personal growth. Olga, thank you so much for joining us tonight. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Olga is an entrepreneur and a product designer, author, and a co-founder of Moonly, which is a self-discovery and wellness platform used by more than 10 million people around the world. She has spent years exploring how psychology, symbolism, mindfulness, and intentional design can help people understand themselves in a better way. Olga, it's wonderful to welcome you to the show. And uh to begin with, you know, since you have worked in so many domains and sectors and your work sits at the intersection of technology and self-discovery, uh, I would like to ask you something because most of us feel like uh technology pulls us away from ourselves. How do you reinterpret

Technology As An Instrument

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this? Do you think technology can also help us uh discover ourselves?

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Um thank you for that question. Um, I think uh all depends on how we use the instrument. This is just an instrument, and uh the EI technology is the product of uh uh human thoughts, uh human learning. This all information uh is databased uh on uh human resources. Uh so uh there are different um approaches uh on esotericism uh systems and uh the mix of these systems, or just uh choosing uh one or two or three systems, and uh we uh use not only Vedic astrology, but uh personally believe that it's uh my base uh and uh the lunar cycles and the system uh uh for uh it includes only also also mantras, yoga, uh practices of uh holidays or in lunar calendar holidays. Um and uh I'm not uh Indian, and uh this is uh more about knowledge, um not a living tradition for me, but I'm uh interested very deeply. Um and um uh the base is Vedic astrology in our service, but also as um uh research, as I made uh research uh for myself, I was interested in the uh tarot system and uh runic system, and we uh took uh education from masters, and um I learned that uh there are a lot of uh meanings, codes uh for the soul growth, and the path from um very material to um mystic and spiritual is kind of the same process we go through and different systems reflect uh it's a little bit different in different languages. Uh, but I also met um the uh that some uh spiritual masters uh that are very deep in uh um entrepreneurship, that uh of course are very deep touched uh with the IT world now, and they understand the technology, AI technology, and how the tech are developing now. I uh met a different um uh combination of systems that we they start from absolute, they start uh from all databases. And uh for me that different uh um that uh when I was learning uh Redic astrology, it's different from Western astrology. When I was learning a tarot system, it's also different uh schools like uh

Astrology Tarot And Honest Choice

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uh British school or French school. And uh uh I think that you have to be honest with your own path and choose something that uh closer to you, uh, and that that path in is only about to be honest with yourself. And uh that instrument was born uh born uh from my personal interest. Uh I I hope I answered uh the question. And of course, uh before I had uh experience of being a designer that uh uh uh I created mobile and web applications for companies and startups. Uh so the design and marketing um interface uh take the only instruments and uh we decide how we use it, how we communicate, and uh uh through the grow process of business, we met um we met uh transformation. Uh when everything starts with uh uh personal interest and uh idea that I want to learn from the best masters, and I want to become master of my own life, to be happy, more happy than I was before. Uh, then uh the business met uh the reality, the physical world. And uh through the implementation that when idea come to realization, this one process. And in design school, we learned how to materialize our ideas. And uh when uh the business met uh market and uh real world, it's this other process. You have to uh make a choice every time. Uh and this is uh age or when you're uh keeping um the Egregor field uh in clear um intention to help still. Uh doesn't matter if you need to play that marketing games, uh you have to play, it's funny. Uh it's not uh so bad, I think, but you have to think differently. Uh you have to good uh to make create a good uh content that meditation that really help people with a pure intention. Uh but in marketing there are different uh play and rules, and uh you learn and learn every time. So this is instruments, and uh finally uh the matter uh only matter is your um primary intention. Uh as entrepreneur, I wanted to be happy and uh I wanted to have an opportunity to travel, uh to work uh in a coffee house and buy a coffee. I wanted to just uh have money for my coffee uh to work in a good place. Then I wanted other things. I became mother and I wanted to travel, and uh now I want to have my home. Um that's only about honesty with yourself, I think.

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Absolutely, and that makes so much sense. And Olga, uh, since you brought up Vedic astrology, tarot reading, and you mentioned that it had to do a lot with your own personal interests, and since you talked about technology as well, how do you think these might help us uh discover ourselves? How might how these might help in our own self-discovery, especially when we have uh associated self-discovery with uh definitions of achievements, careers, and social media profiles? So, in such an era, how do you think these things might help us recognize who we are?

Finding Yourself Beyond Achievements

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Yes, uh everything um getting faster and the time uh changed and uh technology growing faster, and uh in our field we also meet new uh applications every day that we can use that image generator or another image generator, and uh this that makes us crazy. And to be honest, all my instruments and uh psychotherapy and uh different uh meditations and deep relaxation or connection with the heart or connection with the energy centers in the body, uh it was working uh for uh some period and then I um it it was not working also. And uh I'm also still looking new um uh new um methods, uh new masters uh that um go go forward further. Uh and um firstly uh it's uh it's all also uh always about um back to yourself, be in contact with your true uh desire and uh uh that's training uh to uh sensitivity and uh um feeling and emotion and the contact with body and all that gives the opportunity to feel uh what our inner energy want us to go, uh, which direction. Um this is everyday practice, and our uh mission uh and slogan was uh be in contact with yourself and uh this daily self-discovery guide uh is um different keys and instruments uh that um different for different people, I think.

Why Stories And Symbols Work

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Absolutely, and um Olga, since you have explored so many domains, uh why do you think that stories and symbols still continue to resonate so deeply with people, even in this uh modern digital lives of ours? Do you think there's a definitive way as to why we can explain this? Stories as in uh mythological stories, or maybe stories associated with astrological elements, or maybe just believing in symbols, anything like that?

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I know one person, uh he's a very famous um uh editor uh uh in uh Russia. Um uh he made uh many a journal five-six journals, and uh everyone knows uh him. And uh in her his personal blog, uh he's telling that uh and also Kanye West also said the same. So editors and musicians they said uh people love stories. So when you can tell stories, uh you translate some meanings. This is a channel uh and uh you can make it in different formats, in a film, in a concert, in a magazine article, and I also tried all many of these uh channels. I was a musician, I made a film, and uh we made a concert. I collaborate with musicians a lot, uh, with Moonlier because we use meditated music in our meditations uh from those practitioners who do that music every day based on do retreats for people. This is uh the path, soul path. Uh soul music means for me a lot. So this is our instruments, uh, channels to tell um those meanings that we believe in. And uh with time, I recognized that um I my uh story is a little bit uh changing with time when uh um uh firstly I thought I have to help people, and uh then I recognized that I need to help myself, and that was a very long period, and I still learning. Then um I recognized that uh I didn't know what to be woman, and uh I worked a lot, I wanted to be safe and protected, to have money, and that concept also is not about lunar uh female uh uh energy astrology, and uh um and now I'm learning to trust. And uh one day I also wrote a fairy tale about the prestess of Luna Moon, uh the moon. Uh, this is our uh uh uh how can I say um the main character of the moon and uh the AI astrologer in chat. So uh this is like my character from my personality, and uh she's also pressed as uh in taro arcana, and her meaning is keeping uh the key of the wisdom of the world uh and uh um what is uh behind, what is unseen. Uh so uh that uh that creature, that uh character, uh and I made a fairy tale uh about her growing. So uh that small little girl that uh had a lot of problems with uh uh her childhood uh and uh she didn't she didn't see her father most of the time, and uh uh finally she found the support uh from her grandmother and the nature and the moon and uh um support the gods and support of symbols, uh for example, crystal uh umber that uh represent the sun energy, and uh that uh energy also the fire energy of fire of the soul, so it's uh like a wish to live, what is very important for our choice, uh, because you can't uh go up in your meditation if you not choose uh to live your life uh totally be in contact with uh this material world that's also represented by lunar energy, also. So it's uh our body, not only our um emotions and uh our inner world. So, as you see, the moon is the main planet in Eastern astrology. I think you know it.

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Yeah, I do, and uh Olga, that was such a beautiful narration, and I really like that the way you presented it

Nature Body And Inner Center

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all. And uh, you know, since um uh we are talking about mental health, so many of our listeners here are balancing work, family, and personal challenges all at once, trying to stay emotionally healthy. Since you have worked on technology, you have studied um the astrological aspects. If someone feels disconnected from themselves right now, where would you encourage them to begin to feel connected to themselves?

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Um I have a lot of instruments, but I would recommend first is nature, uh, river or trees or forest. And uh this is my was my uh first steps. I started to run every day. My father uh uh was training uh and uh um how would it say jugging? Uh I don't know. Uh so it's contact with body and nature. And um the next uh practice that I used uh to save my mind from uh very unstable uh uh um condition uh is was um the that formula for um kind of not uh the prey but um I I said I bring all my uh willpower back and I uh talking it again and again I bring all my uh willpower back from all experiences and contacts and contracts uh maybe previous lives and uh I this is my wish I will um I get back my willpower.

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This is a very important this is uh um uh contact with this um center and uh then uh um the our uh inner center is uh the place uh where we're looking uh from to the world we're looking not uh from outside as our parents and for example uh we're not uh we're start thinking uh listening what's inside so we are learning uh to keep this um crown uh the center um and uh a lot of a lot of uh work I had with the psychotherapy about childhood uh programs uh and mother and father and mother and uh grandmother and grandfather kin programs uh to see what's going on with my programs why I feel in that why I'm doing that and only this work helped me to grow with the product with a team or uh around 30-40 people in different times and uh that opportunity to grow with product and the people nearby uh uh only when you're working uh inside yourself uh then you can help uh those people who are nearby I think that way absolutely and that's such a good way to start and a good place to start I would say thank you so much for having this thoughtful conversation Olga if um our listeners want to connect with you where do you suggest they find you uh sure uh the application uh that we made uh last six uh more than six years uh called Moonly app Moonly.app

Moonly App And Final Takeaway

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Thank you so much absolutely and to all our listeners I think uh one idea that stays with me from this conversation is self-discovery requires you to understand yourself with honesty and compassion and when technology is created with intention your intention that can become a bridge rather than becoming a barrier to that journey of ours and Olga is definitely a standing proof of that thank you so much for joining us Olga and uh to all our listeners take care of your mind be kind to yourself and keep growing one thoughtful step at a time I will see you in the next episode soon