How To Witness Trauma Without Losing Yourself, with David Small

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Trauma isn’t only what happens to you. Sometimes it’s what happens inside you when you keep witnessing the unbearable and still decide to serve. I’m joined by David Small, who has spent the last decade working alongside the Burma Rangers in Myanmar’s long-running civil war, and who recently wrote *Nameless Faceless People* about that journey. We get honest about what repeated exposure to violence, displacement, and loss does to the mind and body, especially when you voluntarily step into a conflict zone. 

We talk about why “trauma” can feel like a buzzword in the West, and how that cultural noise can make it harder to admit the real thing. David offers a clear lens: trauma grows when an experience is both overwhelming and out of your control. He shares a simple daily check-in question he used with his team, plus the “backpack of rocks” metaphor for how stress and grief accumulate quietly until you feel stuck, numb, or exhausted. 

From there, we move into grief that comes in waves, the role of purpose and calling, and the reality of coping behaviours like alcohol dependency among young soldiers and displaced students. David also shares what he’s learned running the Jungle Discipleship School, including a powerful link between nutrition, food security, and mental health: when students know they’ll eat tomorrow, they can finally start dreaming about next year. We close with practical hope through community, counselling, and Internal Family Systems ideas about welcoming every part of ourselves without losing our way. 

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Connect With David Small:

Website: junglediscipleshipschool.com
Book: Nameless Faceless People: Ten Years With The Free Burma Rangers — available on Amazon and Barnes & Noble
Instagram: instagram.com/junglediscipleshipschool
Facebook: facebook.com/junglediscipleshipschool
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