May 14, 2026
20 min
People Over Profits: How Joel Miller Built a Business Around a Healthier Definition of Success
What if the way we have been defining success is quietly costing us our wellbeing? Not in dramatic ways, but in the relationships we rush past, the trade-offs we normalise, and the parts of ourselves we slowly stop showing up for.
In this episode, Joel Miller, co-founder of The Sky Floor, sits down with Yusuf to share a grounded take on what sustainable success actually looks like. From running a two-person agency with his twin brother for over fifteen years to choosing family time over the next dollar, Joel makes the case that people, not profits, are the only thing that lasts.
About the Guest:Joel Miller is co-founder of The Sky Floor, a digital marketing agency he runs with his identical twin brother Alan since 2009. Based in the Chicago area, Joel has built his business around long-term client partnerships, family-first decision making, and a quiet rejection of grind culture. He is also a parent, a reader, and a thoughtful voice on what it means to define success on your own terms.
Key Takeaways:- If you never define what success means for you, you will keep reaching for more without ever knowing you have arrived. A working definition for the season you are in is one of the most underrated tools an entrepreneur has.
- Work-life balance is a misleading frame. We spend more waking hours working than doing almost anything else, so the goal is integration that supports the whole life, not constant trade-offs between two opposing sides.
- The "sacrifice everything for the win" stories we read in business media are cautionary tales, not blueprints. There is almost always a healthier version of the same success.
- Generosity is a mindset, not a milestone. Some of the most generous people have very little to give, and the wait-and-see version of generosity rarely arrives.
- Putting people first in business looks practical, not poetic. Saying no to extra revenue to protect family time, absorbing small extras for long-term clients, and not nickel-and-diming people all compound into trust and longevity.
- A good clarifying question is, "What would I want said about me at the end?" Whatever your answer, start orienting your work and personal life around that today rather than waiting for a wake-up call.
- Website: theskyfloor.com
- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/joelelliottmiller
- Company blog (Medium): medium.com/the-sky-floor
Episode Chapters:
[00:00] Opening Reflection — When the Definition of Success Quietly Costs You [01:54] Meet Joel Miller — Building a Business with His Twin Brother [03:39] The Obsession With More, and Why Defining Success Matters [07:00] Identity, Legacy, and the Tombstone Question [10:01] From Goal-Oriented to People-Oriented — A Subtle But Total Shift [11:38] What "People Over Profits" Actually Looks Like in Daily Practice [15:53] The First Step Toward Redefining Success [19:28] A Final Word — Start Now, Not Later
(Timestamps approximate, based on natural shifts in the conversation.)
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